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Tuesday, January 29, 2013

just something curious i noticed

watch this 19 minute talk by pamela meyer at ted.com regarding spotting deception.  then watch the answer to the question about whether her probably murdered boyfriend was cheating on her in this interview with mindy mccready.  at around 2 minutes 19 seconds into it, notice how she begins her denial that he was cheating by nodding her head yes?  and notice the elaborate nature of her denial, which seems much like clinton's denial that he was messing around with lewinsky.  i have no idea if she shot the guy, but my read is that she believes he was cheating on her.

i don't care about mccready or her boyfriend.  i'd never heard of her or him before i saw that article.  i watched the video because i had seen the meyer talk and wanted to test my lie spotting skills.  i think i did pretty well.  i have more opinions, but i am curious what others think if they watch both videos.  the meyer talk is worth watching regardless.
posted by DBK at 12:46 PM |

8 Comments:

Sorry, but many people have claimed to know how to spot when people lie. Just about all police officers, for instance, think they can tell when a suspect is lying. And in every controlled test conducted, these people get the same score as chance guessing.
commented by Blogger Gerald Costlow, 3:32 PM PST  
I can see you're another internet expert. Did you watch the videos? Do you have anything else to offer? Can you, without using a search engine, cite one of these "controlled studies" or is this more of the usual internet expertise? ("Duh, I read something about this somewhere some time.")
commented by Blogger DBK, 12:27 PM PST  
So I went and checked on studies of lie spotting. None of them are relevant to my posting and none refute it in any way. I have a posting that goes into this further in draft and may or may not post it. I have too much research to do to complete it and, in half an hour, I will receive a topic via email that will require my complete dedication for the next 48 hours. I don't know if I'll bother getting back to this. However, I will say that the research I have done confirms to me that Mr Costlow lacks critical thinking skills and is just another internet "expert" pissing on someone elses parade by way of showing off.
commented by Blogger DBK, 11:32 AM PST  
Oh, and here is a cite that pretty much destroys Mr Costlow's contention. His lack of critical thinking skills will lead him to conclude that the cite confirms his remarks, but it will actually demonstrate that he should have either kept his "expertise" to himself or actually watched the videos.

If I seem a little pissy about this, it's because I don't like little brained internet "experts" who wander around dismissing postings ont he basis of their "expertise", which is no more tha an example of their own ignorance and lack of critical thinking.
commented by Blogger DBK, 11:36 AM PST  
By the way, the studies (which I have actually read), don't show any such thing as claimed by Mr Costlow. I get the feeling that what he read somewhere some time was either a misinterpretation of the results or he can't remember what he read accurately.
commented by Blogger DBK, 11:37 AM PST  
Dude, if you wanted me to point you to an article to support my opinion, all you had to do was ask. How about something from an official law enforcement magazine? Sorry about the long url. http://www.policechiefmagazine.org/magazine/index.cfm?fuseaction=display_arch&article_id=2268&issue_id=122010
commented by Blogger Gerald Costlow, 4:03 AM PST  
Your cite is weak tea, once again ignores the entirety of what I actually said except to go hunt for an article that supports you, and shows a lack of research skills that is appalling for an alleged writer.

In other news, you're just another internet "expert". You aren't actually interested in learning anything, you just want to make a dismissive argument based on something you read somewhere some time (and to support it, you googled, found your supporting article, and posted it like it seals the deal when, in fact it just supports my remarks about you). How about you just take your ignorance and desperate desire to show off somewhere else. I don't expect you to try and learn anything. Go dismiss other people.
commented by Blogger DBK, 6:56 AM PST  
I just reviewed what has to be the saddest, most pathetic example of a cite I have ever encountered. You didn't understand my original posting, didn't bother to watch the videos because you already knew it all, and didn't bother to go any deeper than the very surface of your own citation. In short, you strike me as a perfect example of an internet "expert". The ways in which your cite does not support your dismissal of my posting are so many that I can't be bothered to write a lengthy piece taking it apart so I will summarize: it is inapplicable. It addresses eye movement and nothing else, and nowhere is eye movement cited by Ms Meyers or others as the be-all and end-all f detecting deception. Nor does anyone who is in the business of detecting deception ever claim that there is certainty in detection.

I mentioned a cite earlier but for some reason it didn't show up in the comment, so that may contribute to your ignorance. I'll do a little googling and be an expert back at you and hope my cites make it into the comment this time:

http://spp.sagepub.com/content/1/3/274
http://www.sageofspringfield.com/argument/Liar/Clues.html
Note that in this cite, the author makes it clear that techniques don't provide certainty, just indicative. Which is pretty much what most everyone in the field says.

You know what? I can't afford the time to argue with you anymore. You came in here to show you are an expert at something without bothering to even watch the videos or give the posting any credit at all. You just wanted to show the world what a brilliant expert you are because you read something somewhere some time. Then I answered you and you said, "Oh, I'll google an article that supports me and leave it at that." And all so you can be an expert and dismiss a posting that took time and thought. The internet is full of internet "experts" like you. They don't deserve the time I have wasted on you.
commented by Blogger DBK, 7:20 AM PST  

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